wat's the difference from the other thread "Scorchers...Broadsides...Interested?"

AnthoFlex
Currently, the Broadside list is kicking the Scorcher list's ass, haha

Just the way I like it

AnthoFlex

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The cool thing about BOTH the Broadside and Scorcher is that if HSL decides to re-release them, all you big feet out there (Sizes 13 and 14) will be covered because size 13 and 14 molds for both shoes already exist.

Page645

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i think since the broadsides are kicking ass they should replace the express with the scorcher

broox

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do you have any material to present? last time i tried to do this, they claimed that they lost the molds and all supporting materials for the shoes.

if not, you should study up on 'clinic in a can' - i have it ripped and could upload it.

they outline the materials used all of the shoes. and as you all know, the materials used in the scorcher is what made them popular. the running-shoe weight and feel is what made them awesome. simply mocking up another scorcher with inferior/different materials will not be sufficient.

same goes with the broadsides - except oppsite. the materials used in the broadsides were too cheap for such a complex shoe. the lowers often ripped in between the grindplates.

anyway, this is a big challenge, and has been somewhat tried before. if yall need help, let me know.

RamenRadio

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Actually I was a little curious if you could upload a FEW of the videos you already have up in a better quality. If you ever have the time to do that, it would be pretty sweet.
Jul 16, 2007RamenRadio
And yeah, replacing the express with the scorcher would be so sick man.

Page645

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oh i didn't know that they claim to have lost the supporting materials for the scorchers. there goes my idea. but yea that would be nice if u can upload clinic in a can

Page645

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my idea would have been sooooo sick man
Jul 16, 2007AnthoFlex
Hey Derek, if you have AIM, can you Instant Message Me at AnthoFlex ? I really would like to talk more about this

AnthoFlex

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I have a copy of Clinic In A Can. I've studied every last bit of Soapshoes even before i got my hands on Clinic In A Can.

Clinic in a can just confirmed some questions that i have had left unanswered.

AnthoFlex

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I'm making sure that i have some material to bring in.

2 Broadsides
1 Scorcher

And quite a few data sheets. I'm trying to remember what else.

They claimed to have lost the molds and all of that? How long ago was that? Because they just told us recently they have all the molds and that the reason they dunt release em is because its "cost-sensitive without proper re-assurance"

Page645

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"cost-sensitive" my ass

dunk

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"cost-sensitive without proper re-assurance" ...the hell? seems like they're trying to throw you off the scent with some ridiculously sophisticated money talk? Surely "not cost effective" would have sufficed. But I see what they're saying, without evidence that there's a potential market and scope for growth they're not going to act. Good luck with it though, hopefully you've got some impressive numbers to show them, have you got a date set for the meeting?

AnthoFlex

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Steve is taking care of that.

Thanx for wishing us luck

SapAuthor

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Business Jargon Translator:
Cost-Sensative without proper re-assurance = We don't think it's worth putting the money into, since we don't beleive we could sell enough to make a profit.

They do have all the molds, Steve was there when they handed over all the molds to HSL during the puchase.

Thanks Derek, we do have material, we have sales records, mass of surveys, and other things. We are going to put together a good presentation and really take it to them. Hopefully at least the broadsides will make it out, and in size 13 and 14, i need a new pair of SOAPs bad. Plus broadsides (as renny has shown and told me) are uber-comfertable, the soft rubber and lots of fuzzy padding.

But don't worry, I placed top 10 in the nation for E-commerce two years in a row, and the competition was putting together sales presentations (within 30 minutes i might add). Steve's been doing this type of stuff for a long while, and Renny, well he's Renny lol, he knows SOAPs like the back of his hand.

Plus at least now we have data to show that the shoes can and do sell, as well as who they are selling to (expecally that they are selling to the market that HSL hasn't been able to touch, teens and older teens, thus combining Heelys for little kids, and SOAPs for when they grow up, we can show HSL how to keep the market share).

plus, we're putting together a vid of team SSS, to show all the new SOAP stuff that's been going on.

AnthoFlex

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NO offense Trev, but i need to combat the whole SSS video thing....

Dude, if you wanna build a successful team, you cant really just put noobs who havent even gotten their shoes yet into a list and say that they are a team member.

I think if you are gonna make an SSS video, you gotta find the people on the list who are actually Soaping, who can actually do WOW things. For example: You, Me, Trey Davis and Stuart Pickson (slidey).

AnthoFlex

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and its true...i know Soap like the back of my own hand *looks at hand*

WTF IS THAT!



.....oops

Let the OTHER one sink to the bottom

I copied everything from the old one onto here because Keith used a font growing HTML and forgot to close it properly and it destoryed the other thread. If you reply, your comment fonts out bigger than the comment before it

If anything they'll need to prove to HSL that we want the Broadsides. maybe then they'll release the A-Sides.

But no one wants scorchers lol

I meant to say no one wants asides lol

The list didn't go past 40 or something. No one wants those shoes

XD It's just a modified express plate with a sole plate, it's nothing special. I'd take a pair of broadsides or Mr. Wilsons or scorchers or Tbones or any other shoe over those ANY DAY XD

I hate those shoes after taking a half decent look at them

So what are you saying? I don't get what your trying to get at

u two got a secret going on?

I have a pair of Tbones and a pair of Mr. Wilsons, so no I don't need broadsides at all. I want a pair, but I don't really need them much.

And I found out with the help of renny that I can do a full sole makio on a pair of Tbones if I just focus on the heel and not the front of the shoe. If I do that, then I can do it just fine. It works rather nicely.

I have three pairs, those shoes are sick :D

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......scabs

Get to do what?

dammit scabs.thats what

page645, please condense your posts into a single post, if possible.

and the aside has a plate closer to the scorcher (a faster plate), plus i hear they are lighter weight and such.

But Renny and Steve are right on this one, the aside was only made in size 9, and HSL is goign to be edgy as it is bringing out an already existing model, they won't go for aside, at least not yet. I think the first step is bring out broadside or scorchers, keep improving sales, and show HSL that soaps can compliment HSL, not work against them.

Brooks from HSL marketing (not broox) gave me the percentages of sales on the heelys shoe sizes, and they sell mostly size 5 6 and 7, soaps mainly sell 8+ If we sold as many as we did, and still selling, with the limited marketing we have had (mainly word of mouth, here, and my 1000 some fanbase). If HSL put some time into SOAPs once more, they could have the kids get their heelys, and after they are done have them move onto SOAPs for the rest of their lives. Heck, i've been getting surveys with people as high in age as 29.

I think maybe the guy who suggested the wheel in the beginning might have had a valid point, SOAPs are a kind of useless for really little kids cuz they can't jump, and can't do rails, but are perfect for teens on up. I think it would benefit us soapers and HSL if they put at least some more effert into bringing soaps back with a couple of models (express for lower cost, scorchers for speed freeks and lightness, and broadside for lateral plate) they could be looking at a good amount of money and sales. We have yet to begin to tap all the past soapers, people are still only just finding out that SOAPs are back.

also, both the Scorcher and Broadside lists have age groups higher than that of Heelys.

Currently the lowest age on the:

Broadside List: 10
Scorcher List: 10

Actually, now that i look at it, its the same kid. He put his name down for BOTH.

I decided not to make a "BOTH" list. It will just throw the data off. Instead, those who are on both lists are color-coded Green

sorry trey will do

the scorcher's plate is way more special than the speedster...

but! a fusion can be possible

Um, the speedster plate IS the plate on the scorchers lol

I don't know what you are trying to say. Maybe you were talking about putting a sole plate and a speedster plate together I dunno.

Funny thing is that I didn't see sole plate in anything he said lol

damn, i want scorchers...then again i also want prabas and sylons,then i'll stop complaning, if only hsl can bring them all back like the good old days......even thogh i never knew soaps in the good old days,lol, but i can imagine how the good old days were

werd werd werd

if incase hsl does release the broadside, would the realease a-side and the other models(abe lincoln's black sylons.......praba.....yummmmm)?

HOnestly, i think they would be more willing to release a mdel of their own rather than one of that from the Artemis days

I mean, that way there could be no way of backing out of releasing those shoes.

Okay if you believe that they would rather release their own model what is the point of trying to push them into rereleasing old models?

The reason why we push for the older moldels is because they have the molds for them. The HSL shoes only go up to a size 12, and some people out there need a size 13 or 14.

However, it is true that they would probably like releasing their own shoe than open up some old molds. If they had the molds for the asides, they probably would have released the asides a long long time ago.

I don't get why they should keep THAT a secret lol

It's their own model, if anything they should have kept secret that they have everything from the artimis and instride days a secret. It wouldn't make sense to keep secret a mold for their own shoe.

But perhaps they just want to focus on heelys out of anything, who knows.

(sorry to double post)

But hopefully, maybe, we can get both, we want both released, becuase then in my opinion we have all the soaps we need for now, a fast one, a low cost economy one, and a 50/50 plate one.

50-50 plate is the normal plate dude. You are thinking about the Sole plates

oh sorry, I knew what I was talking about, but I got confused with what someone else said. I haven't Soaped in forever. :(

Well, they are trying to get them to do it. But if they haven't said anything about it, then apparently nothing has happened at all...except for a new shipment of expresses.

i think its good news they restocked.2 me this looks like they just want to make sure they can sell before they are rereleased.

All this negative thinking, wtf is wrong with you people?

no worries dude, its all good

that would just make the shoe heavy as hell

maybe becuase you have no lock in grooves

Maybe you suck

Express are a very light an durable shoe, I mean, I prefer BBK Plate over Express plate, but the Express is a solid shoe....and a light one at that. Helps you jump freaking high.

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