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Feb 4, 2004 by derek

What up yall. Lately I have been wanting to take some fisheye shots with a digital still camera, but couldn't seem to find a camera that would work well with the lens's that I already have. I found this dope conversion chart at www.bugeyedigital.com - they're actually who I bought 1 of my fisheye's through. They've got some decent prices, also.

Anyway, check this out: http://www.bugeyedigital.com/moreinfo/lens_compatibility_chart.html

It tells you which adapter rings you need, which lens's will work with specific cameras etc. Now you can get high quality fisheye shots, no more video stills!
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Feb 5, 2004 Mart

According to this chart, I'm supposed to have some .75x crappy wideangle lens. Don't think so

Feb 5, 2004 aaron

or you could just do it the non-retard way, and look at your camera, find the filter thread diameter, then find a fisheye lens with the same diameter... or one with a similar diamter and get a step down/up ring... not exactly rocket science...
awesomely, my way worked when i bought my fisheye, my wideangle, my telephoto, and my 3 filters...

Feb 5, 2004 aaron

oh, and it worked for when my friend bought his death lens too... although it was a little more difficult since he got me to modify the stock vx2000 bayonet to fit onto his cam, but it works fine. mark ones are definately better than the mark twos.

Feb 5, 2004 aaron

oh, even better, don't use a digital camera... film is the way to go... but that's even more manual labour than simply trying to find a fisheye...

Feb 6, 2004 Greg

..and load the film without a helper monkey. come now aaron.

Feb 6, 2004 Mart

I've been doing it that way ever since I got my cameras?

Feb 6, 2004 derek

right, but the thing is... i didn't own the camera. i was looking for a camera that would fit with my current filters and lens'

Feb 6, 2004 derek

i've shot tons of 35mm shots, but the quality just isn't where i want it. 35mm SLR never had the vivid colors that i was looking for. with a 6 megapixel digital camera, i could beat your 35mm any day. plus, editing is so much easier. don't spend hours in the dark room with test strips, ruining photo paper, etc. i buy 1 camera, 1 memory stick, and use photoshop if needed.

and then if i want the pictures displayed, i either upload them to my digital picture frame (w00t) or print them off at shutterfly.

Feb 6, 2004 aaron

if digital beats film, then how come magasines only accept film pictures? untils there are improvements in the CCD system of Digital and Digital SLR cameras, Film SLRs (when used manually by someone who knows what they're doing) will still work much better.

I also strongy believe it's better to get a lens to fit your camera, rather than a camera to fit your lens...

Feb 6, 2004 aaron

plus you can always take your film to a photolab and have them use a digital film reader to convert your photos into image files of whatever sise you want, as opposed to digital where your file's dimensions are limited to your camera's capabiltities. Once on your computer you can edit the photos easily, not to mention the crispness, colors, etc. of a film camera are MUCH MUCH greater than that of any current digital cameras. Right now I'm use a 4.0MP Nikon 4300, and a 5.0MP Sony that belongs to my friend... both are nice, and digital is convience, and in most cases I'd probably use digital over film because of this... but I'd still rather save up for a Hassleblad film camera for those shots that have to be perfect.

Feb 6, 2004 Mart

You don't need to spend ages in a darkroom, either; you can develop the negatives and then scan them straight onto your HD. You can buy high definition scanners that come with 35mm adapter kits

Feb 7, 2004 derek

regardless, 35mm film is a small, small frame and the larger you blow it up, the more grain it's going to have. i admit that grain can be cool if used correctly, i've taken several grainy shots on purpose with my my minolta (maxxum 5) SLR and loved them. i've also taken lots of non-grainy shots with it. but still, the larger the picture... even at 8x10 they start to get grainy.

with digital, however, i could take pictures with a resolution setting almost as low as 1600x1200 and have no grain (or pixelation) visible. so then i decide to take pictures at at least twice that, and i can print crystal clear posters.

i'm assuming these magazines also realize that there a LOT of shitty digital cameras out there... so the range of digital pictures that they get is going to be really broad. but 35mm is all the same size... so their quality difference is going to be much narrower (physical quality/graininess). thus, they will be safer by asking for film only; there will be no 640x480 cellphone pictures submitted.

if i were to shoot on a standard film with an SLR and want quality pictures, i'd use a medium format camera.

but whatever, this same argument has been had a thousand times before and both arguments are going to have their advantages. i just think that everything that can be done with a film SLR can be done with digital cameras... faster, cheaper, and usually even better.

Feb 7, 2004 Mart

No, you're wrong. Digital can never be as good as analogue, whether to do with video, photos or music

The graininess is down to using crap quality film, harsh developer fluids, poor developing processes or bad paper. The CCD in a digital camera has to interpret the light hitting it, digitise it and loads more shit, whereas 35mm film reacts to the light hitting it, nothing more. Thus, film gives a true representation of what's been photographed, digital photographs do not

Feb 7, 2004 Mart

Also, compare the size of a CCD to the size of 35mm film, and the fact that a CCD pixel is huge in comparison to a particle of photosensitive film

Feb 7, 2004 derek

hehe, this is fun. you shoot 35mm. i'll shoot digital.

...and if i do go to film, i'll shoot medium format, not 35mm.

Feb 8, 2004 GreenBeret

film is the way to go my friend. i also use a maxxum 5. i wanna get a 7 or 9 later on down the road. when i get better.

Feb 8, 2004 aaron

i think 35mm is better than digital... mart is right, a pixel has a limited minimum sise... film's minimum particle sise is the protons in an atom... very small... sure there might be SOME grain, but thats due to the film, developer, etc... if you wanted to you could get 35mm shots to any sise you wanted, but it may include spending more on better developement processes and more expensive film...

Feb 8, 2004 aaron

ps: if you are going to shoot film, medium format probably is the way to go... however developing can be inconvient to it's lesser popularity and more expensive processing... but 35mm is still better than digital IMO

Feb 8, 2004 Mart

Louis shoots with film and scans his negs. Although he's got it easy cause his dad owns a photography company or something

Feb 11, 2004 dunk

I beg to differ about what magazines accept... although a lot of photographers still shoot with film, I've never heard of a magazine that doesn't accept digital aslong as it's shot at high enough quality. Just pick up an SLR camera magazine like 'What Camera?' and you'll find loadsa articles on high profile photographers who have their work featured in magazines all the time who've decided to switch to digital.

Personally, I'm sticking with film for now, although I guess the proof is in the pudding... the fact that Kodak have completely ceased production of 35mm cameras is an indicator that they're placing their trust in digital.

Feb 11, 2004 aaron

theres more money in digital... easy, convient, and newbies dont need to know shit all to get their auto-shot pics on the interweb and email to their loved ones. not to mention cameras get outdated every few months, so more money. with film cameras, anything from twenty years is still considered modern and worth most of what it was new... so less money in the business. film is, and always will be the most highest choice, but not always the most practical...

Feb 15, 2004 Mart

My dad's Canon SLR is about 25 years old and it still does the job amazingly well
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