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Sonic Hereos Question
Jan 6, 2004 by Jordan_Thompson Is Soap still going to get credit for Sonic Heros? I noticed on the preview they are grinding rails. If Soap (or Heely) does not get recognition, I will be SUPERPISSED. Replies
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Jan 6, 2004Floptastic
Jan 6, 2004Mart
When Sonic Adventure came out, Soap had approached Sega and sponsered Sonic. They used the game as an advertising too; they didn't march up to Sega and say 'oi oi oi, we're going to sue you unless you put Soaps in your game'
Jan 6, 2004Mart
Jan 6, 2004Jordan_Thompson
Jan 6, 2004Scalier
so get over it...
Jan 6, 2004Mart
Jan 7, 2004mike
Jan 7, 2004Mart
Jan 7, 2004Scalier
Jan 7, 2004Mart
Jan 7, 2004fordy
Jan 7, 2004Smokey
Sonic games rule.
Jan 7, 2004Mart
Jan 8, 2004Wesker
If you think about it there was somewhat of a story line to both Sonic and Mario games. Mario had to save the princess and Sonic had to save the animals from being robtosized.
Power-ups? Are you nuts? Try playing more than the original Sonic and one of the Dreamcast editions. Sonic 3 for example introduced shields that allowed you to do special attacks.
You want stuff to collect? How's about collecting 50 rings for ever Act to get the chance at the special stage that allowed you to get the chaos emeralds which in turn allowed you to get the real ending and the use of another power-up... Super Sonic.
Never saw stuff in sonic to destroy? Yeah let's ignore the hundreds of enemies and countless boss battles
Now I am not trying to knock down Mario because I love Mario aswell. But Sonic my friend.. Does not suck.
Jan 8, 2004Phantom00991
Jan 8, 2004Mart
Jan 8, 2004Jordan_Thompson
Jan 8, 2004Scalier
even if both were gone Super.
Jan 8, 2004fordy
But yeah, Sonic is...alright, and mario is quality. Please don't say you're all loving sonic up because he slides down a couple of rails on the dreamcast? jesus.
Jan 8, 2004fordy
Have you fucking idiots noticed who sega are releasing the sonic games to? if sega were better they'd have made something better than the dreamcast by now, as opposed to releasing games on the GC and sucking nintendo's bumhole.
Jan 8, 2004Jordan_Thompson
sega only took a 10 year break, they said that IF they do make a new system, it would be in 10 years. So we'll see in 2012. :)
Jan 9, 2004Floptastic
damn sports games ruining everything.. i mean seriously, why the hell do people buy football games, like madden 03, then buy 04 when it comes out, and already had 02 and 01 and 00... stupid
Jan 9, 2004Wesker
Sega has always been about games. Ask anyone who's into video games and the answer will always be the same (Excluding fanboys)
However Sega never made the best consoles. The Dreamcast was revolutionary, released before the PS2,Xbox,or GC.
The first "Next-gen" console to hit the market. Sega's first system since the saturn(Which btw never had a real sonic game) so some people were skeptical, but that passed and many owned the system, the Dreamcast destroyed the crappy N64 and played excellently well against PSX's large fanbase/game library.
That's until every other company started to release their next-gen systems after the Dreamcast. Obviously these new systems had way better processing power and were a little easier to develop for, so the developers moved over to the better consoles (By performance, NOT games).
The Dreamcast died and Sega made the best decision they evermade... They went multi-platform. Sega games are released across every platform now.
Ok you say Sega is sucking up to Nintendo by releasing games for their system? Have you thought what games were released?
-Sonic Adventure DX
-Sonic Adventure 2(Battle)
-Sonic Mega Collection
Yeah thats right. Those are all PORTS! The first brand spanking new Sonic game to be released is Sonic Hero's being released on all systems (PS2,GC,Xbox)
Sega sucking up to Nintendo? Shyeah riiiight.
Now Sega as a company rocks. They have made some of the best games ever. Sonic just so happens to be one of them, So let's not forget the countless other games Sega has created.
Although, Mario and Sonic can't really be compared anymore as their game's have varied style. Mario focusing on puzzles and Sonic focusing on fast paced Action.
Fat plumber that takes his time, Fast animal that loves action.
Sales of Sonic games are not low, by any standards especially since Sonic is known to be one of the all time favorite video game characters.
Once again I am not saying that Mario sucks. I am just defending Sonic here in saying that he dosn't suck either. Both game characters have their up's and down's and apeal to different audiences.
Oh and Fordy, I love Sonic because of his gameplay-- It's amazing. Sliding down poles in SA2 was just a bonus :P
Jan 9, 2004Mart
Also, if Sega HAVE made some of the best games ever, how come they're not raking it in? Many Dreamcast games were simply ports from Playstation games, and the ones that were developed for it weren't particularily sparkling
'Dreamcast destroyed the crappy N64 ... The Dreamcast died' - This makes no sense, since the DC died well before the N64. Games were produced for the N64 right up until the GameCube was released, then, as can be expected, no-one developed for the N64 since it's successor had come out; people just stopped developing for Sega because they had no future in the console market
The reason why Sega didn't develop a next-gen console is because they simply couldn't afford it. If they had the money, they wouldn't sit around and just licence their games to everyone else and watch their profit margins fall. This is the reason behind this 10-year break that Jordan mentioned; they're trying to save up some cash to develop a new console. Personally I can't see this happening; they'll be so behind on the times that they'll have to recruit hardware developers from other companies, and I don't think many people will be willing to leave their posts as MS, Sony and Nintendo
In my opinion, the Playstation killed Sega. Nintendo was heading the same way too, but since the Japanese practically wank over every single Nintendo release, such as Pok?mon and every single Mario-based game ever, they were kept afloat. If Nintendo's Japan market had caved in, they'd have taken the same route as Sega. But as long as Nintendo keep developing Mario games based on a new and inovative idea, I can't see Nintendo completely dying
Jan 9, 2004Scalier
one game for phone called N-gage. but nintendo isnt doing much better either,
they have the best console on today.
the X-box but it has only halo and thats it. Game cube is not a good console but it has most of the newest games today.Playstation 2 is nw propably best console AND it has plenty of good games.
Jan 9, 2004Mart
Jan 9, 2004Floptastic
Jan 10, 2004Mart
Jan 10, 2004Smokey
Jan 10, 2004Wesker
Sega going multi-platform WAS a good idea. If you check their profits, its doing really well and Nintendo JUST reported its first huge margin drop of the fiskel year.
Jan 10, 2004Floptastic
For one, the discs are so freakin small.. what the hell is that? stupid
2: its got a handle... what the hell is that? stupid
3: no good games.. end of that one
and 4: they screwed up by producing a horrible mario game, which dessimated its fan base. if they would have made a good mario game, i think it would be more popular now. but they didnt, and thats their fault.. stupid nintendo
Jan 10, 2004Mart
Dario, saying that Nintendo have lasted due to strong franchies proves that Sonic was a weak franchise. Otherwise they'd still be developing consoles; taking a 10 year break makes absolutely no sense if they have the money
Also, care to explain what you mean by 'fiskel year'? Because to my knowledge, fiscal is to do with expenditure and debt, so of course a fiscal year is going to be one where they lose money
Jan 11, 2004fordy
Wesker knows far too much about this topic...I feel he needs a bit more of a life.
Jan 11, 2004Wesker
Mart, Strong franchises is what makes Nintendo weak. The problem is they have like 3 of them instead of a diverse library of games that many people enjoy.
And yes they did lose a lot of money.
Jan 11, 2004fordy
All i said was that the GC has a good range of titles after someone slagged off their range of games.
Jan 11, 2004fordy
Jan 11, 2004fordy
..i downloaded sonic advance for my GBA, It is pretty crap, but i captured the picture of him pulling what looks to me like a Mizuo down some dirty rail.
http://www.geocities.com/f_o_r_d_y/sonic.jpg
Jan 11, 2004fordy
http://www.geocities.com/f_o_r_d_y/sonic.JPG
Jan 11, 2004Mart
Sweatstance, Fordy
Jan 11, 2004Wesker
Jan 12, 2004fordy
And considering the game is a 2-D lump of wank on my right hand, it's not possible to tell which side he tackles it from, so lets just call it a crap mizuo.
Jan 12, 2004Mart
Jan 12, 2004MylilPony
Jan 12, 2004MylilPony
Jan 12, 2004Benji
Jan 12, 2004Smokey
Jan 21, 2004Jordan_Thompson
Feb 21, 2004soda
Oh, and not that anyone cares my opinion, but I say that Sonic > Mario.
Mar 8, 2004BoltStryke
May 3, 2004AnotherFSWalker
Mario is a gay stereo type of an Italian loser while Sonic is an impatient soaping hedgehog. Screw Mario. My Pokemon would eat his soul...
Apr 6, 2007SoapNinja
WOW. this argument was uncalled for.
THEY BOTH ROCK!
Two totally diff styles so why bother comparing. Mario flys and runs. Sonic Soaps and runs Ok the end. LOL.
You wanna see mario soap?
do ya?
Buy a costume and put it on and Soap mann and you'll see Mario Soap LOL.
Peace
Apr 6, 2007SonicSoaper
Apr 6, 2007matrix8967
---Alex
Apr 6, 2007JeiHeirumaru
Apr 6, 2007JeiHeirumaru
Apr 6, 2007JeiHeirumaru
Apr 6, 2007Mart
Apr 18, 2007Tasslehoff
Apr 18, 2007sam
Apr 18, 2007SpiderSoaper
Apr 18, 2007Tasslehoff
Apr 19, 2007SpiderSoaper
Apr 19, 2007Mart
Apr 19, 2007AnthoFlex
Apr 19, 2007SapAuthor
They also had one of the first 3D gaming systems with sega saturn, and dreamcast.
But in the end, there are too many gaming systems, and sega didn't do a great job advertising and in marketing, cuz' nintendo still won out. I am glad they went multiplatform, becuase now everyone can get those great games. I have a gamecube, and thanks to it i can plan almost all the sonic games :D I think that although Sega really was one of the greater gaming systems, the only way to stay afloat was to go multiplatform, and I for one am glad.
Apr 19, 2007Tasslehoff
Apr 19, 2007Curtinator