I believe that this has been done before. But i doubt it would work.

If i were to sell my Broadsides or Septums for example, i wouldnt want an asking price to put here. I would want people to rip their heads off in a bidding war to get them, you know?

Well we dooo sell them in express if u need SOAPs bad. They won't be the older models of course, but it goes to help bring SOAPs back. All the sales are going to be shown to HSL in hopes of bringing out some new models and bigger sizes this fall.

Perhaps the new models you're trying to convince HSL to release could have removable plates?

I personally dont like replaceable plates to much, beacause after a while the screws start to get stripped and their wicked hard to get out. but thats just me.


If HSL did make removeable plates the soaps would easily cost about $120 just for the first line to come out.

i stil want Page645's (Kieth) ord's

Sylons size 12, sorry. Sides, I love those shoes lol

Sylonsoaper, of course u luv um, and the shoe goo i put on worked but, the sole is making new tears!!!! damn, i think cause the sole isnt leather, and the real ones r, but ive never seen real non-proto boltars, will u sell them Antho(Sylons)? hey Ramen are your cobalt's soles made of leather, mine r made of some cheap shit, i feel cheated off of the boltars! *throws boltars*

wat is it then?

i have protos and i think theyre cheaply made, tough model from soap my ass, theyre protos!!!!!!

Jefferson, I told you over a week and a half ago to send them back to me so I could review what the problem is. I also told you I would refund your money if they were defective, after I had a chance to look at them. You have apparently chosen not to return them, slap Shoe Goo on them, and complain about them in this thread and a couple of others. I have tried to be very fair and helpful up to now, but what to you expect? Well, the offer still stands: send them back, I will review them, probibly throw them away since they sound pretty well trashed-up at this point, and refund your money, assuming they are defective. Please explain how can I be any more fair? ---Steve
P.S. Please e-mail me directly and keep the complaining off of the forum, when I am trying to work this out for you. Thanks. (Derek, sorry for the clutter).

i'm sorry that didnt sound right these pics are before i put the goo

Nice job Spider, nice fucking job....geez.

You know Steve doesnt HAVE to sell you protos, those are from his own personal stash that he keeps as a collection. He was nice enough to sel l it you, and you spill off in a sea of complaints. My Sylon gunmetals have the same problem, but you dunt see me complaining, thats because Steve is my good friend and those sylons are a token of his friendship

sorry will i didnt know they were protos till i got them alright, and i'm not blaming him so calm down, i know i had the chance to send them back, but i wanted to see if i can fix them

do one or the other, because u are pissing both me and Steve off

It's OK Renny. Let it go! He kept saying that the sole was tearing and looking at the photos he just linked, what it really is de-lamination of the upper to midsole glue line adhesion. Heck the prototypes were made-up in 2000-2001 so the glue is like seven years old. Reworkable with Shoe Goo or neoprene cement, but only if clamped until the glue cures, to set the bond. Anyhow like I told him, if he sends them back, I'll refund his purchase, and thne I'll see if I can salvage this pair, if there's not to much new gunk on them to get a good bond. No problem. --- Steve.

...I didn't even know Steve had any old style of shoes......

Spider, you're lucky you even got protos, man.

How much did you even pay for those? o.o

well they were 40

yea but i also bought plates, which i'll keep but yea, the boltars look tough

size nines out there?