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My E-mail to HSL...
Apr 21, 2008 by rhinoskater30 To whom this may concern: Hi. I have recently come back into contact with Soap Shoes again. I remember them way back from around 1999 to around 2002. Now that I have been reminded of these shoes I was wondering if HSL would begin producing them again. So, are you? I know a couple of people that would and have enjoyed Soap Shoes before. We have tried the Heelys with grindplate recently and have found a couple of problems, some of which are: Our feet are too big, and the soles hurt our feet. We didn't have these problems with Soap Shoes and we found that the grind plate in Soap Shoes seemed to work better than those of the Heelys models of shoes. I have also found a website that is devoted to Soap Shoes. If anyone at HSL has been there and knows what site it is, I'm sure they would know that there are hurtful and rude comments made against others and Heelys. From what I have found, the comments aren't made solely for the buyers of Heelys, but are mainly made because HSL has reduced production quantaties of Soap Shoes, and limited the production to one model, the "Express." Members of this website have claimed the "Express" to be good in quality, but have complained that this is the only shoe that is available. The members of the website and I, personally, have wanted to see a re-birth of Soap Shoes from when the Soap Shoes Company first began. I'm sure this would help settle arguements there (in the website) and satisfy many eager customers, not only on the website I'm speaking of, but also in many parts of America and other countries. I have also found out that the financial status of HSL and Heelys is not very well either. Many people, and I believe a mass production of Soap Shoes would help boost the prices of stock and help HSL rake in a lot more money. Plus, with more money from Soap Shoes means more money to produce more Heelys that are good in quality. Thus, Soap Shoes and Heelys would do equally as well, as long as Soap Shoes would still be produced in many different styles and in good quality. If Soap Shoes were made separate from Heelys and Heelys had no grindplate, consumers would have to buy both Soap Shoes and Heelys. These are only thoughts and a couple facts from one person, of course my information came from many different, un-named sources. I truely believe production of Soap Shoes could help HSL and turn it into a true empire. I think Heelys has already dominated the "wheel in the heel" department, and has done well. Maybe Soap Shoes could turn your company, even though it already seems to be a monopoly, into a huge monopoly that could dominate not only the grind shoe and roller shoe industry, but the skate industry in whole. Please take this into consideration, as Soap Shoes were a good product and were enjoyed by many. [Some information may not be true but whatever.] Replies
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Apr 21, 2008rhinoskater30
[Response]
Thank you for your email. Our business is driven by the retailers. The retailers business is driven by the consumer. There are no retailers who ask for Soap shoes except for 2 and they are online retailers. These 2 retailers don't order and sell mass quantities of Soaps. I would imagine if all the "sports" type retailers came to HSL with demands of needing thousands of Soap shoes something would change. The people that enjoy or love Soaps are not really a large population in the scheme of things. I know that Soapers believe they are, but selling less than 1000 pairs of shoes in the last fiscal year in the whole world is not really showing a demand for product.
I know the website you are speaking of. Yes, in the past and maybe even now they have had very rude and crude comments not only about HSL but also about the people who work here. Most of the time, if someone here reads them, they are ignored due to the age group on that forum.
HSL is a public company therefore our financials are public information. If you check any of the financial sites you will see that HSL is a debt free company.
We appreciate you taking the time to write a well thought out email to us. Please know that your opinions/concerns are important and will be noted.
Apr 21, 2008AnthoFlex
Steve gave us specific orders for everyone who soaps not to even talk about HSL
Apr 21, 2008AnthoFlex
didn't we talk about this already? remember? me offering to travel the U.S to do free demos? Or did you guys already forget THAT too?
Apr 21, 2008rhinoskater30
Apr 21, 2008AnthoFlex
Apr 21, 2008AnthoFlex
Apr 22, 2008blakeashake
Apr 22, 2008Kain
separating the wheel and grind plate is like trying to get a cat to declaw itself. ppl would be extremely pissed off if they didn't have plates on their heelys. Yeah, it would make them have to buy heelys AND soaps (making HSL more money), but it would piss them off to the point of not buying either and keeping what they have.
Apr 22, 2008AnthoFlex
But rhino, who was the one that responded to this email? It sounds discouraging and ignorant.
Apr 22, 2008AnthoFlex
Hmm, and how in the hell is that possible when we sell out, they don't restock us? Does that not mean anything?
I say the response is bogus, and it pisses me off
Apr 22, 2008mets603412
Apr 22, 2008Crazyiom
Apr 22, 2008afrogunso
Apr 22, 2008afrogunso
Apr 22, 2008iwantsoapshoes
Honestly, HSL please read this next line
Go. Fuck. Yourselves.
Apr 22, 2008AnthoFlex
Do you really like being such a little asshole? Shut the fuck up, and keep all the HSL flaming to yourself. Remember who's in control here, they are. They don't have to listen to us if they dont want to, and you're not fucking making the situation ANY better.
So just cool it the fuck down with the flaming
Apr 22, 2008afrogunso
Seriously listen to antho, he is the voice of reason.
We have nothing to protect ourselves from HSL, they hold all the cards. If we want to make a difference its going to have to be through peaceful negotiations.
All your comments are doing is giving us a even worse view in HSLs eyes.
Apr 22, 2008AnthoFlex
Apr 22, 2008Kain
it doesn't matter what came first.
If H-blocks were made separately from blades, how would bladers react if you took the H-blocks away?
Apr 22, 2008afrogunso
Apr 22, 2008Kain
But still, heeling would lose so many tricks if they didn't have grind plates.....heeling with plates was what really made it get recognized.
Apr 22, 2008Joshua3109
All in all if I was the receiver of that message I would be thoroughly impressed after reading these boards and would consider supporting SOAP some degree more.
Apr 22, 2008Kain
yup. That's what they listen to. Well thought out and intelligent responses.
Apr 23, 2008AnthoFlex
Apr 23, 2008Kain
you just said soaps came before heelys.....
Apr 23, 2008rhinoskater30
Apr 23, 2008rhinoskater30
~Janice Bynum from Customer Service...she seems nice, like a school counselor...
Thanks Josh, I wanted to give a good e-mail of what was on our minds or at least my mind without being a total douche, I am only 15.
Sometimes even I amaze myself
Apr 23, 2008Kain
idk...that happens to me sometimes too. Maybe there's a glitch.
Apr 28, 2008iwantsoapshoes
Apr 28, 2008AnthoFlex
Apr 28, 2008Kain
you're the one that brought it up
Apr 28, 2008AnthoFlex