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SOAP Red Scorchers Size 10 for sale
Aug 4, 2013 by Flare0080 Just figured I'd post here in case someone was interested. I know a bunch of you are from the UK and I may open up international shipping if there is serious interest. I wish Soaps were still being made today. Anybody else agree? http://www.ebay.com/itm/200949672935 Everything you need to know is inside the auction, but ask if you want any other info! Thanks for looking! Replies
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Aug 4, 2013VintageGMan
Aug 4, 2013kowalski
Soaps for saps.
Aug 4, 2013VintageGMan
Aug 4, 2013gongon1037
Aug 5, 2013Flare0080
Aug 5, 2013zelda
Aug 5, 2013manofmisery
Aug 5, 2013mindreader
Aug 5, 2013kowalski
Aug 5, 2013Flare0080
Sorry Zelda, just no. I've already gotten that offer for just the red pair.
Aug 5, 2013kowalski
Aug 5, 2013Flare0080
Aug 6, 2013VintageGMan
Aug 12, 2013Revengasaur
A. One of the two most rare and desirable soaps ever produced.
B. In the most desirable colorway for the shoe.
C. In the most common US men's shoe size.
D. Lightly used.
is entirely reasonable.
New examples of this shoe in less desirable sizes have gone for $300-$600 with some degree of regularity. These prices may seem unfair or even ridiculous when there are soaps that are similar for sale for less than $100, but it's simply a matter of supply and demand. So few of these shoes exist in ANY condition that we (The small rarefied market) should cheer the fact that somebody wants to make them available to the public at all. At least it's exciting to see them for sale.
Aug 12, 2013Flare0080
Aug 13, 2013kowalski
We should not cheer this at all.
There is a maximum for things like this, anyone paying over £100 is an idiot.
The stuff you talked about, anyone caught up in that is a zombie. Let them pay $400+ for Soaps and let them do it for the reasons you stated. But we don't need to agree with it or endorse it.
I certainly am not affected by that kind of nonsense and I won't be educating my kids to be affected by it.
Why look at a system that is fucked up and call it reasonable. It isn't reasonable. It may be understandable, but it is not reasonable.
Aug 13, 2013zelda
Aug 13, 2013Revengasaur
I know quite well the sad, frustrating impacts of living in a consumer driven capitalist society. Being a lifelong collector of various things I have seen some downright embarrassing prices asked and paid for things much less useful than soap shoes.
I just want to let you know that I understand your position kowalski, and in many ways I agree with it. Capitalism sucks, but at least for the near future, it's here to stay.
Aug 13, 2013kowalski
And, actually, this is how you deal with the problem. You deal with it by not playing the game and chastising those who do.
If you say, I disagree with it and I applaud it is a very confused position, or doublethink, and won't change anything.
Aug 13, 2013kowalski
Could have started the bidding low, didn't. Is a dick. Fact.
Buyer is dick also.
Aug 15, 2013Revengasaur
Aug 15, 2013kowalski
However, in fact people choosing to participate obviously is affecting others.
I don't think you thought that post through too well. I should spill my hands as having an MA in Philosophy too. I've been through this topic before.
I am unable to force anyone to do anything. I'm arguing that this way is shit and there are better ways.
You said we should cheer the person for making them available at all. This is that American double think again. Support the troops but not the war, or something equally ridiculous. Yes, if you applaud those taking part you are applauding the thing itself.
Aug 15, 2013Revengasaur
Aug 17, 2013manofmisery
Aug 17, 2013kowalski
Also, not sure what you call a flame war around here but from what you are saying it sounds like if you walked into any university in England you would say their discussions were flame wars too.
Thirdly, when someone says they will 'show their hand' it doesn't mean they are about to show off. Que the opposite. It means they are letting their opponent see what they are playing with. This enables the opponent to make better, because more informed, decisions on how to continue. I told you of my academic background for this reason, as is clear in the language I used when doing so.
I would hope if I were in a discussion with someone and they had a relevant background in the topic that they would advise me of it too.
Using terms like flame war, which this clearly isn't, and "spiraled ... out of control" which this vitally hasn't, is a strange move in and of itself.
Personally I love to discuss things make arguments, receive opposing arguments and continue on to a more enlightened and educated future thanks to those discussions.
I don't understand someone thinking there is something bad in this activity.
If you don't want yo discuss it, don't. Trying to label it a flame war or announce that it has 'spiraled ... out of control' and to make apologies to the board is more than a little over reactive.
Chill.
It is just an intellectual debate in a public discussion forum relevant to the thread.
Nothing exciting is happening here, just a little, knowledge exchange. You don't need to be afraid.