BBKs (only because I found they're a lot easier to buy, I haven't seen Express anywhere, not even on eBay)

give it a good 24 hours to get some good couple responses.

ok ;)

well, im kinda a n00b to this forum rictor, so i would try looking at the comments left under the UHF original section under "plates"

I'll reply what I can say from experience. The express plate is basically mid grade PVC pipe material molded into a grind plate. Original soap plates where made out of higher durable blends like delrin and other polymers. They stand up to grinding alot better and are more predictable on surfaces.

The express plate from what I've grinded on so far. Its varied. Any rail coated in something it becomes slippery like walking on a wood floor with wool socks. Yet on bare metal rails its great, contacts nicely. Rough surfaces chew the plate up- as well most concrete unless its painted concrete or very very smooth.

As well the express plate is all the new shoes have if your a diehard soaper( as I am ) then you deal with the downsides. But the older shoes have the advantage here. Tougher shoes, tougher plates.. better styling. Thats why we need to get these shoes back!

Kru i dont know what is wrong with you and the express plate its the same material it's a awesome plate. and it deserves some respect. i mean come on the express plate is like perfect almost, it is perfect on smooth hand rails and is just all around nice. Ive never had any trouble with my old express plates on cement or ledges i actually prefer not to grind on cement ledges and the like though as to me it's not that fun.

as for the express plate it's not awefull but it takes some use to get a good lock on for the rails. you'll need to wear in a grove on the uhf plate. You can just swap to BBK or keep the UHF in either way you'll have a blast when soaping.

I have gotten a pair of expresses a couple months ago, and I must
say they are quite good. And i baight a pair of Ordnance off ebay with bbks.

I would have to say neither of the plates are good. I know your probably thinking what is this kid stoopid. But here is my answer to this question. If you grind really hard with the express they'll be
gone quicker,but same with the bbk you grind hard they'll be gone quicker. Now it isnt a waste buying the express even though ur
plates are gone, You still got a perfectly good shoe to wear

Now people always say replacable grind-plates are better, and of course they are but if your a really hard soaper your plates and your shoes can be ripped our scratched so even replacing the
grind-plate wouldnt help. the shoe itself would be falling apart mostly the heel from breaking it in or the front of the shoe.

So i come to my conclusion When choosing a grind-plate pick what
you like and what you want to get. Dont get what people tell you to get. You might not always liek what people offer to you. But like I have said, Im not going to side with the Express Or BBK.

The major difference here for me is. The BBK plate is not part of the shoe its bolted on. Meaning the whole way of grinding is different as it has more surface area. The express plate is cemented on so you get less surface area and the entire shoe moves with the shoe. Well some might find this a better quality I do not.

I like the bolt on aspect because the plate sits parallel to the shoe were the set in express has to be angled up in the shoe to sit flat. The bolt on also wins to me because its replacable. 10 bucks instead of 90 bucks seems more logical to me.

I'm about the construction and engineering behind things. The HSL plate has its upsides but I like the complete practiability of the old gen Soaps. Replacable with any bolt on. HSL's is WYSIWYG

I like BBK....Express is nice...but BBK's got it beat...Express is kinda soft.....BBK is a tank...and replaceable

---Alex

heh, ok, they're soft, and the curbs eat them and shit them out....also they're cemented...so if you break it, you gotta pay 50-120 bucks for a new pair....instead of like 12 for new bbks...

---Alex

^looks like matrix has the answer, now you can pick up BBKs for $6

alright, sorry antho, and also, thanx for all the responses guys ;)

Wait Express should win. I have had my Expresses for 3 years or when ever I joined SG. They are still lasting to there not really hurt at all.

Bolted plates don't move...if they're bolted in good.

---Alex

SSAndroid, Steve is the only new SOAP dealer. Although it's not finished, i uploaded what i have so far of the site, the order form is working so you can order a pair from it, although size 10-12 are still being shipped (HSL is slacking), and there are also ordnance flint shoes size 9 and 10 (limited quanitity).

www.sonicandpals.com/soaps/index.swf

im Sorry, i wanted to bring this back to the top to ask whoever said

I'd rather pay $10 for new BBKs (of UHFs) rather than $60-85 on a new pair of Express or sumthing like that....

So how about if they were Scorchers? Would you rather have the speedter plate or pay $10 for a new pair of UHFs (or BBKs)

It's all preference. Not everyone wants the speedster plate. Me for one. I like the practical nature of screw in plates.