Antho, they are SOAPs dude, he bought them from me. Chill antho, he's a SOAP brother, even if he's competition, we are all part of the same team.

And the kid is doing just fine, im not shitting his style

please, no more shitty filming of practice rails. PLEASE. do a handrail.

lol the kid has just started soaping, he'll get to hand rails

I can do handrails, but lately i've been a little scared to jump ever since a little incident on the Longest Rail i ever cleared.....


I thought i go back there with a camera and got raped by the rail....cut me up bad haha

regardless of the tricks, it is still a practice rail. that wasn't impressive at all. that is the shit that you shouldn't be filming, practice on your pvc until you can actually do the trick on a real object.

the only time i ever seen Vermillion is in Pokemon.....But Ryan, the kid just started out, give him a break.

1. Vermillion is a colour.
2. Back off, Ryan.
3. I need to use my video camera. I feel bad.
4. I like him!

And now for a reply...

Let me drag out the long ass discussion hats. Now let me put mine on. I said it was impressive that he could do a cheese grater because it's hard for me to pull it off. While I agree that a point system is lame, it still give you no right to just bash it. If it's just for a little fun for the SSS team then so be it. Who the hell tells people how to have fun for Christ's sake? Even if practice grind vids or pics are lame at least you're getting the time in to improve a little. And another thing, some people take more time than other to warm up to certain heights. We aren't fricken ninjas that can jump seven feet in the air without making a sound. If we were we'd have a new president from all the ninja Democrats who says they want Bush dead. I've been doing this for about five months now and I'm just trying to get used to hip height rails. Bash me all you want because I frankly don't care anymore. Onhe of the reasons don't plan on getting any pics up yet is because I'm WORKING on TECHNIQUE. I'll grind a curb for fun but never for "1337 pIx0rz!" That's just retarded. Seriously man, I've seen the sick ass stuff you can do just give the so-called new blood some time. And by the way, if this counts as crying than you're more pissed off than I thought you were.

yeah sss is just for fun... As for me im gonna stop sending in half-assed grinds

Dude, Ryan, we all want Soap to return to it's former glory. Isn't that one of the reasons there's going to be a demo in Queens? Isn't that the reason you have people like southernbelt and Steven Deel selling Soaps in the first place? People like to diss and talk shit but when it comes down to it they have hardly any skill or idea of what they're bashing. Don't worry about what people think because there's always going to be that group of people who think Soaping is cool.

The point system is to keep people improving, trying new tricks so they can go out and do tricks on rails and impress people (since it's better to do a trick to impress). It's also kind of fun because you want to stay on top.

Ryan, are you sure your not Mart? You are being a major downer, quit hating on Sonic. A lot of people found out about SOAPs thanks to Sonic Adventure 2, and other new sonic games that feature the grinding. I got into SOAPs cuz i saw Sonic grinding and the SOAP banners while playing SA2B and wanted to try it out. If i didn't have that, i would not be SOAPing, and SOAPs may still be not in production (not saying i caused it to come back, but when i first came SOAPs and the forums here were pretty dead, and it is on my site that the only shop is open). Quit hating on the hedgehog.

And FYI, i am a sonic freak and proud of it. I've seen all 240 episodes, have the movie, run the largest sonic sprite comic, have almost all their games and going through 1 by 1 completing 100%. Even my girlfriend is a Sonic freak like me. Deal with it, Sonic is a small part of SOAPing, at least linked to it in some way.

And i know most of the videos are just on practice rails, but they just got their SOAPs. I'm challanging them to start going for bigger and better, but even I started on a simple PVC pipe, and it took a while before i stepped up to hand rails.

And if you are so "Embarrased" about SOAPs, maybe u should stop then, wouldn't want you to be "uncool" *rolls eyes* You should worry more about getting more people into SOAP, not what type of people are already there.

PS: Vermillion IS doing stuff outside of a practice rail, going down park slides, skateboarding off onto rails, and having fun.

im not getting in this.....just erase the Royale, Cheesegrater, Farf vid and remove the points for them....imma give u sum handrail pix

antho, when u send in the new stuff, then just remind me and i will do it all on one change.

Lets find out what happens in todays comic...